Nov. 3, 2025

Summer Superheroes, Honest Takes with Rick Stasi

Send us a text Two mega-franchises landed this summer, and we brought in artist and writer Rick Stacey to pull back the cape. We start with Superman’s newest outing and ask a simple question with a thorny answer: when does reinvention enrich a legend, and when does it chip away at what makes the character feel true? From the collar and Kingdom Come-leaning emblem to David Corenswet’s earnest performance, we parse the choices that worked, the ones that nag, and why multiverse logic can both em...

Send us a text

Two mega-franchises landed this summer, and we brought in artist and writer Rick Stacey to pull back the cape. We start with Superman’s newest outing and ask a simple question with a thorny answer: when does reinvention enrich a legend, and when does it chip away at what makes the character feel true? From the collar and Kingdom Come-leaning emblem to David Corenswet’s earnest performance, we parse the choices that worked, the ones that nag, and why multiverse logic can both empower artists and blur brand identity. We also spar over Nicholas Hoult’s Lex Luthor, celebrate Rachel Brosnahan’s sharp, modern Lois, and weigh the Justice Gang’s cameos—fun in theory, uneven in execution. Supergirl’s hard edge tees up Woman of Tomorrow, but not without debate.

Then we pivot to Fantastic Four First Steps, where a retro-future canvas finally gives us a real Galactus and a world that winks at Kirby without drowning in homage. The cast draws mixed marks: Vanessa Kirby brings steel and soul to Sue, Johnny sparks but needs room to breathe, Ben hits the heart if not the gravel, and Reed’s screen presence never fully sells the brilliant elasticity fans crave. We talk missed visual awe—where’s the mind-bending stretch that screams “Kirby scale”?—and smart choices like skipping the origin to get straight to team chemistry. Along the way, we tackle fandom’s endless Stan vs. Jack tug-of-war, praise Daredevil’s craft as a model for grounded storytelling, and consider how DC under James Gunn and a recalibrating Marvel can rebuild credibility in a multiverse era.

If you care about casting, costume storytelling, and the thin line between nostalgia and novelty, this is your deep dive. Hit play, then tell us where you landed: which film felt most like the heroes you love? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more fans find the show.

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00:00 - Host Setup And Health Update

02:06 - Meet Guest Artist Rick Stacey

04:08 - Framing The Summer Movie Debate

08:16 - Superman: Costume, Tone, And Casting

13:38 - Lex Luthor, Lois, And The Justice Gang

19:15 - Supergirl Reactions And Future Plans

22:02 - Fantastic Four: Style, Casting, And Galactus

27:30 - Reed’s Powers, Ben’s Voice, And Easter Eggs

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Tonight.

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I'm in Stitches, so you get a special interview with our very special friend, Rick Stacey.

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Now let's start the show.

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Welcome to Multiverse Tonight.

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Your story for e community.

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We like to make films, games, comics, and much more.

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Bringing you into my inventory on this is Multiverse Tonight.

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Now here's your host, Thomas Temlinley.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 252 of Multiverse Tonight.

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I'm, of course, your host, Thomas Townley.

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And uh, well, if you're watching watching the MJ, you'll notice this is the same shirt as the last episode.

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And that's because, well, I'm actually in bed right now, about uh a few feet away in my bedroom, uh, having just recovered from foot surgery.

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So I just, you know, it it didn't seem apt for me to you know try to do a show when I might be hopped up on painkillers.

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So instead, uh I recently did an interview with uh Rick Sta Rick Stacy.

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Uh of course, uh, you know, you can go back in our catalog there and find you know plenty of episodes with him.

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So and uh for you to enjoy.

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But uh, I thought I'd chat with him about uh the films of the past summer, Superman and Fantastic Four First Steps, and get his his take on things.

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So let's go to that interview.

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Yeah, I just changed over to my Samsung Meteor mic.

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I hadn't had that on here to get used to this stuff again.

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Oh, yeah, that's much better.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right, so it's interview time here on Multiverse Tonight, and I have someone who is one of my favorite people to interview.

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He's uh an artist, a writer.

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He's my friend.

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Thank you, my my friend.

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I appreciate that greatly.

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Uh Mr.

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Uh Rick Stacy.

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How are you doing?

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Hi.

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Hey Budgood, how are you?

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Uh I'm doing okay.

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I have surgery in the surgery in a couple of weeks.

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So uh I'll be doing a lot of uh reading and and catching up on stuff while If if you get bored, let me know and I'll tell you the results of my MRI.

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But by the way, do you like my studio here?

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I love it.

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I love it because I look at that and behind me I have nothing.

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And I keep it that way because with me it's feast or famine.

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I've got tons of stuff, and I've got a few things across the wall, two or three pieces, but I could easily cover every bit of space in here, and I think, and none of my own art, because very little of my own art do I want up.

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Um, but I think that sometimes it's better for me to just kind of chill and keep this open in the background, at least for this time.

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But I've got some really nice pieces.

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If I ever did decide to put them up, an original Gil Cain he did for me in 1983, a Green Lantern and a lovely personal note, and Dick Giordano and Kurt Swan and Dick Sprang and et cetera, et cetera.

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So we'll see.

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We'll see sometime what happens.

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So but it's a beautiful studio.

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Oh, thank you.

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And uh, of course, uh, we're not here to you know talk about my studio or the nice picture that you drew behind me.

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Thank you.

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We are going to talk about uh what uh happened this summer.

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We have we had two big movies coming out, of course, uh Superman and Fantastic Four for Steps.

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Uh both are now out on Blu-ray and DVD.

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Yep.

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I got the Superman already, and the Blu-ray for the FF should be delivered by Amazon today because I just couldn't get out yesterday.

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Oh yeah.

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I'm I'm lucky that I live that I work at Walmart, so it's easy just to let's start uh start off on Superman.

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Okay.

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Now this was James Gunn's take on on Superman, and I think he hid it out of the park.

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Okay.

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Uh very well.

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Uh of course, you know, the wonderful new costume in there, the wonderful uh costume there.

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Um I have to start off one thing.

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As an artist, what do you think about uh how the how the costume came out?

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The the costume was a bit of a turnoff for me since I've been and seen and drawn Superman forever.

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And a lot of people on uh online are saying it's it's comic authentic or comic you know inspired or whatever.

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It is, it's bit and pieces of the comics, but it's under one of my pet peeves, with all due respect to the movie because there's a lot of good about the movie.

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The big pet peeve is that giant umbrella.

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Oh, I just gestured, that was kind of neat.

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Giant umbrella over Marvel and DC called All of a Million Multiverses, which means we can do anything that we want with these characters within reason.

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In Man of Steel, we can goof up Paw Kent, and we can have Superman uh kill Zod at the snap his neck at the end or whatever.

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And and as those creative people get to have their takes on the characters, it it gives me a little bit of uneasiness because through the entire time that we were watching the discussions since 1975 about a movie called Superman the Man, where they talked about Charlton Heston being Superman.

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This is uh Mario Puzzo and all the guys who put together Superman the movie.

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There was such a hard handling of branding of the characters, you were going to stay within the realm of what that legend had been for all those years.

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Um, again, it was branding.

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Same thing at Marvel at that time, but you got away from it with Stan when he went on the TV uh ventures there too.

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Multiverses are a bit difficult for me to swallow, but again, it gives people a chance to show their wares.

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So the Superman movie, I don't like the collar.

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As an artist, I would have designed the costume to be a little bit more traditional.

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Trunks are fine, the belt's fine or whatever.

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But again, since I've drawn him for so long, I saw it as being unnecessary.

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And the insignia is tied to Kingdom Come for me, which is my jumping off point.

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Of course, I jumped back on of the DC characters under Mark Wade and Alex Ross.

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So I I have a bit of difficulty, but I'm over it, you know.

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That's that multiverse.

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And for that reason, it took some getting used to.

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As an art director, you think, no, that's not right, that's not right.

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I don't care.

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Um the movie in itself was an event for me.

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I took my grandsons who were like 11 and 14, my daughter and her husband, my son, and Sharon, my wife, just make an event.

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Let's have fun.

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And I sprung for the big wonderful theater that had the sidewalls, the whole wraparound kind of thing.

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And I thought,$200?

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Well, hey, it's one of those things you really want to do.

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So the movie in itself had a lot of uh sense of wonder and excitement for me.

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How do you how do you think uh David Cornsweat did his Superman though?

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I I think his acting as Clark, as Clark without the glasses on during the interview, and then his Superman role was done authentically enough for me, and I'll get back to that word authentic in a minute, to make it really, really enjoyable.

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And uh course, um let me talk about something that I didn't really care for was uh Nicholas Holt's portrayal as Lex Luthor.

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I don't think he has the he has the gravitas or the voice for it could be.

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Um Michael Rosenbaum is probably my favorite Lex Luther, although Kevin Spacey kicked it out of the park as far as I'm concerned when he did a more serious Luther than Gene Hackman did.

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But they're all Lutherist to me, but my favorite is Luther from Smallville.

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And this Luther to me, because I had to see it twice.

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Once the first time I went, it was a carnival ride.

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It was an event, so I wasn't paying as close attention to the story as I was the wee, this is great and crypto and all that kind of stuff.

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Second time, I've seen it three times now, I've owned it downstairs.

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I paid a little more attention to the story, but I've I've got to see a Luther who is so ground in animo years of animosity and hate and to have the gravitas that you're talking about.

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I think one of the best Luthers I've ever seen, and I'll go by this sometime, was in the last season of Superman and Lois.

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And that to me was jaw-dropping.

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So okay.

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Now uh there were many other characters in the in the movie.

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There's uh Rachel Brosnaghan's Lois.

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I think she did a good job as a modern Lois.

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I the operative words are modern Lois.

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That's she really, really was good.

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When Noelle Neal was Lois and Phyllis Coates was were Lois on the TV show.

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At that time, that was the modern Lois.

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Then you jump ahead to Lois and Clark, and and I think that that Lois was fantastic at that time.

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But Rachel did a great job.

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I've seen her in other films too, and I think she has range, and that range made her all the stronger in this role.

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Yeah.

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And of course, they brought in uh Green Lantern, Mr.

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Terrific, and Hot Girls to Justice Gang.

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Um, I I you know again, they're probably going for, you know, we're gonna be the Justice Gang first, and we'll be the Justice League once Superman joins up.

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Sure.

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I think you're right.

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But uh, you know, I thought that uh the kind of chew the Green Lantern kind of chewed the uh scenery there a little bit.

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That's true.

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Uh and he was uh annoying.

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And as an artist, I want to go back and I want to redesign the costume a little bit to be more of a Green Lantery.

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That's somebody else's job.

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But he gave us a sense of comic relief, he gave us a bit of outlet uh outlet there, and for for Green Lantern to tell Lois about the hypnoglasses, I thought that was cute.

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I'll say that word.

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And it comes from a comic that I read years ago when Julie Schwartz was editor, I think I was freelancing there then.

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And I thought this is just another little way to hook somebody for a month.

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Look at Clark's hypno glasses.

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I still see the cover in my mind drawn by Ross Andrew, and it's kind of fun.

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Mr.

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Terrific, I never was a fan of because I don't think they knew what they were doing with him.

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Mr.

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Terrific as uh um partner in the Justice Gang is interesting, but I don't know what all the little space balls are.

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I don't know enough about him to uh find much gravitas with him.

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Hawk girl was really good, but as an artist, I wanted to see her be closer to 5'8 because she looked tiny.

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True.

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Yeah, she was kind of a kind of a winsome hawk girl.

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Yeah.

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But uh, you know, I I also want to see you know the hawk man that's got supposed to go with the hot girl.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They're a dyad, they're supposed to be these, you know, two things that are drawn, always drawn together.

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Yeah.

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So speaking of things drawn together like that, I I was disappoint- I haven't read Supergirl in a long time.

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Comics are just too expensive, and and to my liking, I'm not liking a lot of them.

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Uh, doesn't mean it's not nice for somebody else, it's not my cup of tea.

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I really did not like the ticket supergirl at the end, and the attitude and the mouth, and I've got to get drunk stuff.

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And so I that's why this is kind of a really good James Gunn one and done for now.

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And when the new one comes out, I'm probably gonna see it out of curiosity.

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But again, the Supergirl thing wasn't to my liking.

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Yeah.

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Well, uh, we'll see her in her own movie soon, which is based upon this.

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Yeah, what is it?

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Supergirl.

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This is Woman of Tomorrow.

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Maybe I'll take a look at the store sometime or read that.

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I picked this up.

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I haven't read through it yet.

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I've kind of thumbed through it, but you know.

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Looks to be a huge quest story, so I guess that's what they're gonna go for for her there.

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No, you know, got nice art in it though.

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Good.

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Um of course they're gonna follow up with that with Man of Tomorrow in 2027.

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So we'll have plenty of time to talk about that.

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Okay, let's move on to Fantastic Four First Steps.

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Yep.

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Now I really and I really enjoyed this movie.

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I really liked the the the retro future aspect of it.

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You know, I thought the you know, the characters were fine.

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You know, the you know, we actually have an actual Galactus instead of just a huge cloud.

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Right, right.

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What do you think of it?

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I uh I've only had a chance to see that once, and I enjoyed it as a multiverse film.

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To me, it is not uh bona fide FF film.

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Uh I mean it is and it isn't.

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What I mean by that is I do not care for the casting on Reed at all.

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And I think when you're watching the brand as an art director, you think in casting the character should look a little like the character.

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Now I'm prejudiced, and here's why.

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One of my favorite um series, and I own it downstairs.

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Uh I've got a little home theater downstairs, is Mad Men.

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I don't know if you've ever seen it.

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Yes.

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Okay, John Hamm and uh January Jones, husband and wife in the 60s, dressing that mode.

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The sets, every the lighting too, was so 60s, and I was there to see all that as a kid growing up.

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I thought, I wish they'd take this back to the 60s, which they did.

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I wish it had the same cinematographers as Madman, which they didn't.

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I wish they would go ahead and state things instead of implying them like there was an Ed Sullivan show in the 60s with the Beatles set.

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I didn't I didn't think the Gilbert Sullivan thing was much.

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Um I uh in the cast casting, um the woman that played Sue, I for I don't remember her name.

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Um it's Kareem Vanessa Kirby.

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Jack's daughter.

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No, I'm kidding.

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But Vanessa Kirby is a phenomenal actress.

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I've seen her in many films, and I thought she did this this well, but I was still looking for a dynamic that would be more representative of Stan and Jack.

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This was flavored like it, but I wished it would have crossed that line in cinematography-wise, and maybe the casting.

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Johnny Storm was fine.

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I don't think Johnny Storm got enough um opportunities to show more of himself.

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Ben Grimm was probably the best Ben Grimm, although I thought, shouldn't he have a lower voice?

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And that's no big deal.

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The jokes like, say it, Ben, say it, and I'm not gonna say it.

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That's in the cartoons.

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That was adorable.

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Shalabal as the other Sentinel, I had no problem with that.

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I like her, as a matter of fact.

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She was wonderful in Ozark and some other uh the woman played that part.

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Yeah, other rules I've seen her in, but it is what it is.

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It'll be delivered to my, I'm pointing it right now, to my doorstep here in a couple hours.

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I hope to watch it this afternoon, as one of the multiverse uh um attempts at the F F.

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I will say this with all due respect, it left me really pining for another F FF movie, not necessarily with this flavor of this cast.

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But we'll see.

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We'll see.

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Well, to think about Reed Richards there.

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My my big thing there was we didn't see him really stretch.

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No.

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Have you watched have you watched the cut out seeds yet?

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Not yet.

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Okay.

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Have you seen the red ghost in the super rate scenes on TV?

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I've seen I've seen bits of that.

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What's up with that?

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That's his thing.

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That's the fun part where he stretches out into space, which of course is Jack Kirby at his best, but not enough of that.

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Not enough of Ben being the one of the strongest, physical memor physically strongest members in the Marvel U, one of them.

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Um, Sue always has a nosebleed.

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I went back and watched the other FFs from the early 2000s.

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That's okay, but uh uh and Herbie I had no problem with.

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I thought that was really kind of cool.

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But again, I got to get back and watch the whole thing again because when we're watching Superman the first time this summer, or I watched FF the the first time, I'm talking to myself in my mind.

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The whole I'm not focused on the story like I should be, or some of the intricacies.

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Because I'm thinking, that's wrong.

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I would have done this, the costume's this way, but why do we have the white John Byrne collar?

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Why can't we go to the you know, being Gemini, both of me talk to myself in the movies, though very quietly.

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Um what did you think of the the the call-outs to like Kirby, the Jack Kirby and stuff like that, making it universe 828 after Jack Kirby and things like that?

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I I think that's that's really, really nice.

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I think that uh it's good to see in all the Marvel movies that have been out in the last 10, 12 years, whatever, there are credits where credit is due.

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And they they bring in the of course St and Jack or Ditko in the Spidey movies, Don Heck, others that have all worked on Iron Man and all these different uh great characters.

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But I thought that was good.

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I have a problem with all the people that want to have you take a pledge of allegiance to one or the other.

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Is it Kirby?

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Is it Stan?

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Nobody's perfect, and and I think that posthumously to come back and form these little groups that some of them are warring with each other and almost litigating online.

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It's just tiresome.

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Let it go, because Stan did a lot of stuff that was good, a lot of stuff that was dopey.

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Kirby was really, really good, and he went to DC and with Fourth World started to wear a little bit, and he did Captain Victory and Devil Dinosaur, all the other things.

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He was way with respect, way past his prime.

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And and that's sad because people want to fall on their swords now over Stan, Jack, Stan, Jack.

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Uh, I'd so love to see a Jack Kirby for uh fourth world movie, something around Mr.

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Miracle or something like that.

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But it would be great, good Lord.

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Forever People was fantastic.

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Exactly.

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And I love that.

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I love the uh the new gods, so the forever people, Mr.

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Miracle, and uh never was a fan of Commandy because I just didn't have time to pick up all the books and read them then.

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But I'm sure that was good.

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But I did see his work, in my opinion, suffer greatly when he went to Pacific Comics.

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I did see his work suffer greatly when he was his own editor, writer, and creative director on a lot of his books because for me it was still a lot of experimental illustration that somebody would come in and say, Jack, out of these ten, seven are great, but these three pieces need to be revisited.

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And you could tell he was just doing whatever he wanted to, which is fine, but nobody help was there to help him make it better, and the writing in some cases was dreadful.

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Now, the interesting thing about both these movies was they start three to four years into the careers of these characters.

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So we don't get to thank you, God.

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We don't get the origin story again.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm glad of that.

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So, you know, um I'm glad that they at least said, okay, let's just skip over the origin.

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Agreed.

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Let's let's get to them, you know, here at the semi-start of their careers, but not quite in their prime, yeah.

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Gun did a good job.

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Gun did a good job with that when he opened up with three years ago, there was this, or 300 years ago, 333, and uh did a really great job with establishing that because we know those tales.

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And and for my money, I think one of the best origin tellings of Superman was Man of Steel.

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I thought that really had a good story to it and gave it enough oomph to make it semi-contemporary.

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You want to know one of my big gripes with Superman?

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What would that be?

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Pa and Ma Kent with accents, the wrong accents.

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Yeah.

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Um you know, I I I saw I didn't care for Ma and Pa Kent at all.

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The the fact that he's a mush and she's going talking to her phone, Clark, can you you know, we're not that backward here in Kansas.

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Yeah.

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Um they sounded a little too Arkansas for me, you know.

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Arkansas's great, I go there a lot.

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Oh, yeah.

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But uh, I think they were cartoon characters, and when you have them become cartoon characters, they lose a lot of humanity, and that's that's sad.

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They were poorly, poorly cast, I believe, yeah and directed.

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Yeah, that that I uh 100% agree with with you on that.

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Um well, so let's think on let's think on the future.

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Where do you think you know the DC universe is gonna go with with James Gunn?

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They've already we've gone they've gone through Peacemaker and kind of set things up there.

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They're going to Superman, they're going other ways.

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Um, Marvel seems to be kind of in a holding pattern, trying to figure out what they're going to what they're doing until they get to uh the big you know doomsday now with uh with uh Robert Downey Jr.

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I I love the guy.

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I think this is a weird casting thing, and it's hard to see him die and come back, and but I get it, and it's it's like I said, it's carnival ride entertainment.

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And if you find some weight to the story, excuse me, story or emotion, that's just icing on the cake.

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But uh as you mentioned, that I will go see the next Superman movie, I will see what they're doing with Justice League, but I'm not I'm not filled with a sense of wonder and awe.

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A little of that is because uh um it comes a little tiresome because we've been so lucky to have so many great films in the past from Superman with Chris Ree up to now uh at our fingertips.

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But I will go see it out of curiosity and have a good time with that.

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I take the Marvel universe more seriously, but I take it in bits and pieces.

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Um was not a fan of Captain Marvel.

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Uh I thought there were some good aspects to that story, but it it didn't take me where I wanted to go with uh the Cree and uh all the other things that I thought were elemental in those stories.

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Um Shang, I've said this wrong.

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Shang Chai?

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Shang-Chi.

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Shang-Chi?

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I watched it a couple times and I thought it was really entertaining, but to me, if I never see it again, it's okay.

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No harm, no foul.

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There's only much only so much shell space for your movies and in your mind when your memory becomes full, just like my Macintosh here.

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Um but I'll probably go the last ten years of of Marvel movies since Captain Marvel, like the Marvels and uh Thunderbolts, whatever I haven't seen any of them.

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I just I just have not been interested.

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Maybe I'll pick up Thunderbolts sometimes.

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I don't want to see it on Disney because I think I need to see it on a larger screen downstairs to really feel it.

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And the disappointment I've had in the sc scrambling back and forth of a black Adam and a Superman or a Black Adam to or what happened to Batman 2 has left me dizzy.

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So interested to see what happens, but I really have no idea.

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Yeah.

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May I say something?

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Yes.

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I mentioned Mad Men, thank you.

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I mentioned Mad Men to you as being one of the greatest series of all time that stayed in a story, in a time and a place.

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I don't know if you've ever seen it.

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Uh I lived in advertising.

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Uh the last at after the final episode of Mad Men, about 1969 or 1970, I'm guessing, is when I started to come into the business.

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So I looked for the accuracies, I looked for the agency names, the things that gave that credibility, and uh that was a thrill for me.

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Credibility being the word, I fell deeply in love with the Daredevil series on Netflix, and I scarfed it up.

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And I think that the Disney, the third season right now is interesting, and I liked it, but I think my favorite Marvel entity right now from a standpoint of theatrical storytelling, lighting, everything that makes entertainment, uh on the screen good is in Daredevil.

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Oh yeah.

00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.039
Now we're going completely off topic here.

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Yep.

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Uh have you have you seen John Hammond uh confess Fletch?

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No.

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No.

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You you should watch that.

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He is really he is really good as Fletch.

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Okay, is this something I get on Netflix or is this something I've got a lot of.

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I have no I have no idea who Fletch is, by the way.

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Um He's a character that was first done the Fletch movies with uh Chevy Chase?

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Chevy Chase.

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Okay.

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This is a this is kind of a kind of a reboot of that.

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It's on the fun.

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I know it's on Prime Video.

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Okay, I've got that.

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Okay.

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But uh you should you should watch that.

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He does a a real good take on the character.

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Good.

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I saw him in a commercial last night, and it was carn carnavan or whatever this car selling, you could sell your car.

00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.720
Sharon and I were watching, and he was comedic.

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And his expressions and his approach and his his uh body language, he was outstanding.

00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:09.759
I told her I'm so impressed by that, that he can go from serious uh to deadly serious the last seasons of uh Mad Men to this comedic approach.

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The guy's good, he's got range.

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He does.

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He has all sorts of range.

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Well, unfolded.

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I've got to get to lunch and I'm sure you have uh things.

00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:23.519
That's what they need to do too, yeah.

00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.599
So uh I thank you for the chance to talk with you.

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It's always a blast to see you.

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I'm thankful for for getting to talk with you too.

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You know, maybe I'll maybe I'll call you while I'm c convalescing.

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Do it, do it, call me, set this up, whatever, you just visit back and forth and stuff.

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Iron Man's.

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Uh it's all I saw a friend of mine yesterday, been a buddy for many, many years.

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:46.799
Uh Mark Wallace is his name.

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And he's a Superman collector.

00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:58.240
And we could talk about certain periods of 60s comics or this and that, what have you, and really talked at Burger King way too long.

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They should have kicked us out.

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But it's always fun to connect with somebody in our community and and share these wonderful experiences circling around these characters.

00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:09.279
Oh, yes.

00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.680
Well, Rick, uh, we'll see you soon.

00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.960
All right, buddy, take care.

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.279
Good luck with your surgery, and uh please stay in touch.

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Uh I'll do that.

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All right, partner.

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